【社会】人们认为印度软件工程师优于中国工程师的原因是什么？_风闻

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Santhakumar

Chinese engineers are good at manufacturing hardware and building infrastructure. They may be excelling in core engineering.

Many software developers cannot be called engineers.

Many people who get engg. degrees in India are not interested in doing core engineering work.

中国工程师擅长制造硬件和建设基础设施，在核心工程方面表现出色。许多软件开发人员不能被称为工程师。在印度，许多获得工程学位的人并不热衷于从事核心工程工作。

Kanthaswamy Balasubramaniam

I judge a nations capabilities solely by their ability to develop Indigenous Technology

I don’t even ask for the best technology in the planet. I ask for technology that is applicable enough and basic enough to fulfill its purpose

我判断一个国家的能力完全取决于他们开发自主技术的能力。我并不要求世界上最好的技术，而是要求足够实用和基础的技术，以满足其目的。

Indias Software Industry is almost 30 years old

That’s a long time and Software and Hardware have both evolved over several generations in this period

What has the Indian Software Industry actually achieved?

The Best example was a few months ago when a small Microsoft upgrade issue resulted in Indian Airlines forced to write stuff in pens and cancel flights and helplessly say “Server down sir”

The Chinese were grinning and their flights flew like clockwork because they had Indigenous Software

印度的软件产业几乎已有30年的历史。这段时间很长，软件和硬件都在几代人中不断演变。那么，印度软件产业到底取得了什么成就呢？最好的例子是几个月前，一次小的微软升级问题导致印度航空不得不手写航班信息，取消航班，并无奈地说“服务器瘫痪了，先生”。而中国的航空公司则微笑着，他们的航班一切如常，因为他们拥有自主研发的软件。

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We are a country which is primarily used for Project Management & creating ecosystems for services using Western Core Software & Western Hardware

Forget Military Grade Servers, we don’t even have fully Indigenous Structural Software for Defense. Even that is in collaboration with the Israelis.

So how are Indian Software Engineers superior in any way?

我们是一个主要用于项目管理和创建服务生态系统的国家，依赖西方的核心软件和西方的硬件。忘掉军用级服务器吧，我们甚至没有完全自主的防御结构软件，这些软件都是与以色列合作开发的。那么，印度的软件工程师在任何方面有何优越之处呢？

The Chinese started almost 15 years after we did

As late as 2009, they were still quite behind us in Software and their Software efforts were laughable

Yet today their IOT work and their Software is top notch in most areas

中国在我们之后大约晚了15年开始发展。到2009年，他们在软件领域仍然远远落后于我们，软件开发的努力甚至可笑。然而，如今他们在物联网和软件领域的工作在大多数领域都是顶尖的。

They have almost 20 Indigenous Tools continuously developed including ALISQL, XJAVA, WUCHING, RocketMQ

They have their own Structural Software

Their Key Industries all run on Indigenous Cloud & Indigenous Programming & Indigenous Servers with Inspur,H3C, Huawei & Sugon as well as Loongson, Shenwei & Feiteng processors

他们几乎拥有20款持续开发的自主工具，包括ALISQL、XJAVA、WUCHING和RocketMQ。他们拥有自己的结构软件。关键产业都运行在自主云、自主编程和自主服务器上，使用的是浪潮、H3C、华为和Sugon，以及龙芯、神威和飞腾处理器。

Yet the biggest difference between the Indian and Chinese is that

Even with all these achievements in less than 15 years, the Chinese still always say “WE HAVE TO CATCH UP, WE HAVE A LOT TO DO”

Even with ZERO ACHIEVEMENTS in the past 30 years beyond mostly writing coolie code for the White man - we Indians always say “SILICON VALLEY, SOFTWARE GIANTS, IT GIANT, SUPERIOR SOFTWARE SKILLS ETC”

然而，印度和中国之间最大的区别在于：尽管在不到15年的时间里取得了如此多的成就，中国人仍然总是说“我们必须赶上，还有很多工作要做”。而我们印度人则在过去30年里几乎没有任何成就，除了为西方人编写苦力代码，却总是自夸“硅谷、软件巨头、IT巨头、卓越的软件技能”等等。

And of course some guy will go “UPI, UPI, UPI” , the sole defense against Indian Mediocrity

So Indians must STFU and do something worthwhile and then other countries will talk of our software skills

The day US bans Indian Software Or Indian IT companies, that’s the sign that WE HAVE MADE IT Or WE ARE GETTING THERE

当然，总会有人说“UPI，UPI，UPI”，这是对印度平庸的唯一辩护。因此，印度人必须闭嘴，做一些有价值的事情，这样其他国家才会谈论我们的软件技能。美国一旦禁止印度软件或印度IT公司，那就是我们成功或正在走向成功的标志。

Rajeesh Cm

Most of the work done in Indian IT companies is maintainence and writing business logic on top of systems built in the western world. Now with AI entering the field even 50 percent of writing business logic will become automated.

印度IT公司大部分的工作是维护和在西方世界构建的系统上编写业务逻辑。如今，随着人工智能的进入，甚至有50%的业务逻辑编写将变得自动化。

Kelvin Lee

The new job for software engineer will be quality assurance folks. Have anyone seen business logic defined by business and maintain by business. It’s usually a disaster, and those business folks either become pseudo software engineer with a background in process engineering. The tools keep changing, but the role morph accordingly. Only those unchanging and not able to adapt gets culled, change is pretty brutal.

软件工程师的新工作将是质量保证。有没有人见过由业务定义并由业务维护的业务逻辑？通常这是个灾难，而那些业务人员要么成为伪软件工程师，要么有过程工程的背景。工具不断变化，但角色也随之演变。只有那些不变且无法适应的人会被淘汰，变化是相当残酷的。

Dave Chanakya

I have worked with both Chinese and Indian Engineers, the difference is these days Indian engineers graduate from call centers and Chinese engineers graduate from engineering schools.

我曾与中国和印度的工程师合作，区别在于如今印度的工程师大多是从呼叫中心毕业的，而中国的工程师则是从工程学院毕业的。

Subramaniam Duraisamy

Answer is simple - the west pays good money which the IT industry runs on. Now Middle East is a good market Let the Chinese or the Japs pay that quantum of money to me to meet my bills and lifestyle needs, and I will gladly switch to them.

答案很简单——西方支付高额薪资，这也是IT行业运作的基础。现在中东市场也不错。如果中国或日本愿意给我支付相应的薪水来满足我的账单和生活需求，我会很高兴地转向他们。

Dheeraj S

West doesn’t really pay good for Indians. Payscale for devs from India in those companies are not on par with somebody working from UK or US. It’s just the exchange rate difference from INR to USD, GBP and Euros makes you think it’s huge.

西方并没有真的给印度人支付很高的薪水。在那些公司的印度开发人员的薪资水平与在英国或美国工作的人并不相当。只是从印度卢比到美元、英镑和欧元的汇率差异让你觉得差距很大。

Subramaniam Duraisamy

It still helps us lead a decent lifestyle right?. Let the Chinese offer competitive packages for a comparison. Who stopped them?

这仍然帮助我们过上体面的生活，对吧？让中国提供有竞争力的薪资来做比较。谁阻止了他们？

Shin Chan

Simple answer- we know English and do what pays more with full dedication

简单的回答——我们会说英语，努力做能赚更多钱的工作。

Kanthaswamy Balasubramaniam

It’s more like we do what requires least effort and pays the most

更确切地说，我们做的是花费最少努力且薪水最高的工作。

Shin Chan

Software development isn’t easy

It’s a very tiring job and that you have to be constantly upxed with the industry

软件开发并不简单。这是一项非常辛苦的工作，而且你必须不断跟进行业动态。

Dheeraj S

Maybe software dev job is tiring, stress inducing and sometimes monotonous but learning curve is not steep as say electronics, electrical, VLSI design and many other engg fields.

也许软件开发工作是累人的，容易产生压力，有时还很单调，但学习曲线并不像电子、电气、VLSI设计和许多其他工程领域那样陡峭。

Proud Atheist

“How long will it take for the USA to ban BYD like Huawei, or to restrict BYD from Google services?”

美国会多久禁止比亚迪像禁止华为一样，或者限制比亚迪使用谷歌服务？

Meera Nadar

How come India fall behind world to such an extent that we are literally 30 years behind in terms of software technology. This society seriously need a reboot . Enormous amount of reboot seems promising to me at this point.India population might be inefficient and selfish without any sense of nationality but the land we inhabit is still full of resources. Just waiting for their right owners just like what happened with America 4 century ago. If we failed to adjust ourselves to progress , somebody else will kick our ass and our race will become a history. People are too individualistic to understand this .

为什么印度在软件技术方面落后于世界如此之多，以至于我们在这方面实际上落后了30年？这个社会真的需要重启。在这一点上，大规模的重启对我来说似乎是有希望的。印度人口可能低效且自私，没有民族意识，但我们所居住的土地仍然充满资源，只是在等待合适的拥有者，就像四百年前美国发生的那样。如果我们无法适应进步，别人会来取代我们，我们的种族将成为历史。人们太过个人主义，以至于无法理解这一点。

Luke Wang

America didn’t exist 4 centuries ago

美国在四百年前并不存在。

Meera Nadar

I mean continent America ( name land mass lies between Atlantic Ocean and Pacific Ocean) colonised by anglo saxons by total elimination of technologically backward natives.

我是说美洲大陆（即位于大西洋和太平洋之间的陆地），被盎格鲁-撒克逊人殖民，完全消灭了技术落后的土著。

Chong S Lim

You mean total GENOCIDE of Native Americans. Being backward is no justification for GENOCIDE.

你是指对美洲土著人的彻底灭绝。落后并不是灭绝的理由。

Mahesh

Indian IT service companies get the contract only because of cost advantage.Cheap labor is India’s USP.

印度IT服务公司获得合同只是因为成本优势。廉价劳动力是印度的独特卖点。

Hu Shi xiong

…the Chinese know English too . It’s essential if you intend to develop beyond china . Especially software or coding

There’s a reason why in Chinese majority Singapore the head of a national bank was an Indian and you’ve not seen any mainland Chinese in prominent leadership positions.

……中国人也会说英语。如果你打算在中国以外的发展，这一点是必不可少的。尤其是在软件或编码领域。在华人占多数的新加坡，一家国家银行的负责人是印度人，而你没有看到任何大陆中国人在显著的领导职位上。