【社会】印度人在英国定居值得吗?_风闻

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Anonymous

Is settling in the UK worth it for Indians?

It’s more expensive than most places so answer totally depends on your income after tax and the number of dependants on that income.

If you compare UK to India:

The main value you will get in UK is peaceful living. It is clean, safe, green, a lot less stressful compared to India, has really good schools, has a very good work life balance.

印度人在英国定居值得吗？

英国的物价比大多数地方都贵，所以答案完全取决于你的税后收入和依靠这笔收入生活的家属人数。

如果你将英国与印度进行比较：

你在英国得到的主要价值是和平的生活：干净、安全、环保，与印度相比压力小得多，有很好的学校，在这儿能很好地平衡工作和生活。

However, you won’t find UK to be more “luxurious” than India by any definition of luxury that meets the visible eye. (e.g. India has affordable housing, more affordable cars, affordable varieties of shopping, retail, home décor, fashion, jewellery, accessories, food, restaurants, etc.) Luxury in UK is hidden under the carpet and it needs time to be unveiled. You will have a taste of it as a student. However only when you are older and earning money, you will see it for yourself in all its details. At that time, my answer will be realised. UK is very expensive due to high costs of housing & route to citizenship* for the salary you earn.

You will find your Indian counterparts settling seamlessly in life while you are struggling to do that in UK. At 30, your Indian friends would own a car, own a house, either start a marriage (or) already be married thinking of their first or second child, afford resort stays and travels (domestic or international or both), have a job at hand which they will constantly debate whether to keep or move on… you on the other hand would be way behind that economic curve unless your take-home salary after tax is sufficient for the number of dependents of that salary. (Not to mention student debt).

然而，从任何肉眼可见的奢华（生活）定义来看，英国都不会比印度更“奢侈”。（例如，印度有负担得起的住房，更多负担得起的汽车，各种负担得起的购物、零售、家居用品、时尚、珠宝、配饰、食品、餐馆等）英国的奢华（生活）隐藏在地毯下，需要时间才能揭开面纱。作为一名学生，你会尝到它的味道。然而，只有当你年纪大了，有钱了，你才会亲眼看到它的所有细节。到那时，我的答案就会实现。英国物价非常昂贵，因为你的住房和获得公民身份的途径成本很高。

当你在英国努力做到这一点时，你会发现这些东西对你的印度朋友的生活来说是毫无压力的。30岁时，你的印度友人会拥有一辆车，拥有房子，要么开始结婚（或者）已经结婚，考虑生他们的第一个或第二个孩子，负担得起度假住宿和旅行（国内或国际或两者兼有），手头有一份工作，他们会不断地争论是继续工作还是离开……另一方面，你将远远落后于经济曲线，除非你的税后实得工资足以养活靠这份工资生活的家属。(更不用说学生贷款了)。

Again, how you feel at the end of all this effort depends on you alone. Because I know Indians who have culturally integrated into Britain and are quite happy there. Their minds never waver about returning to India. I know Indians who lived there for way more than 10 years yet they struggle to fully understand how their lives are any better than their counterparts living in urban new India. This feeling is common to most NRIs.

If you compare UK with other developed countries which are options for Indians:

You won’t like the UK quickly. Plain and simple as that.

同样，你在所有这些努力结束时的感受取决于你一个人。因为我认识一些印度人，他们在文化上融入了英国，在那里很开心。他们对返回印度从未动摇过。我认识在那里生活了10多年的印度人，但他们很难完全理解自己的生活如何比生活在新印度城市的同龄人更好。这种感觉在大多数NRI中很常见。

如果你将英国与印度人可以选择的其他发达国家进行比较：

你不会很快喜欢上英国的。就这么简单明了。

For someone who has lived in Nordic countries (Sweden - Denmark - Finland - Norway), Australia, US, Singapore, South Korea or Middle Eastern countries… UK has very specific little else to offer at the compromise of various other factors. The net sum game won’t be so positive in comparison to other developed countries. Depending on how you look at it, UK ‘breaks even’ or has a much lower score than other developed countries.

The reason again boils down to just one:- Your take home salary after tax is much lower than almost any other country and the hefty sum you pay for the quality of housing in the UK is just unfair. 3/4th of your salary goes to housing, bills and route to citizenship* with ease. It’s a big deal if you can save anything more for your retirement/old age.

对于那些在北欧国家(瑞典-丹麦-芬兰-挪威)、澳大利亚、美国、新加坡、韩国或中东国家生活过的人来说，在各种其他因素的妥协下，英国几乎没有其他特别的东西可以提供。相对于其他发达国家，英国的净和游戏不会那么积极。视情况而定，英国可能“保持平衡”或者得分远远低于其他发达国家。

原因再次归结为一个:你税后拿回家的工资比几乎任何其他国家都要低得多，你在英国为住房质量支付的巨额费用是不公平的。你四分之三的薪水都花在了住房、账单和入籍上。如果你能为退休/年老时多存些钱，那就太好了。

Bottom line:-

Once you are past enjoying the flair of the English language/humour and the cheap food, UK will swoop low on that list of “ideal foreign countries for a young first generation Indian immigrant”. Its one of those countries which is great to visit but lousy to live in permanently. If you have found love, friendship or something meaningful for you to be living for in the UK then obviously everything is worth it. It is solely personal drive that chariots us forward.

*route to citizenship is defined by the amount of money you pay to UKVI - things like visas, health surcharge, indefinite leave to remain (ILR) permit and cost of acquiring a British passport upon naturalisation.

总之：

一旦你不再喜欢英语、幽默和便宜的食物，英国就会在“第一代年轻印度移民的理想国家”名单上排名靠后。英国属于这类国家:来旅游不错，但长期居住的话就很糟糕。如果你在英国找到了爱、友谊或其他有意义的东西，那么很明显，一切都是值得的。只有个人的力量才能推动我们选择英国。

获得公民身份的途径取决于你向英国移民局支付的金额，包括签证、医疗附加费、无限期居留许可和入籍后获得英国护照的费用。

Jestin

I lived in UK for 5 years , now back in India . I will give you pros and cons of living in the UK .

(Personally , I do not recommend any Indian migrating to UK)

PROS:

Less traffic compared to India (you wont notice if you are from a town or less populated city in India)

Cleaner Air and less pollution compared to Indian metro cities (Indian villages and towns have cleaner air).

Free education until class 12 according to India.

Work-Life balance is valued more here

Availability of Indian groceries and requirements

我在英国住了5年，现在又回到了印度。我会告诉你在英国生活的利弊。

（就我个人而言，我不建议任何印度人移民到英国）

优点：

与印度相比，路上行驶的车辆更少（如果你来自印度的城镇或人口较少的城市，你不会注意到这一点优势）

与印度大都市相比，空气更清洁，污染更少（印度村镇的空气更清洁）。

根据印度的说法，12年级之前的免费教育。

这里更重视工作与生活的平衡

印度杂货的可用性和要求

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CONS:

Very high taxes , they drain you off them.

Crippled healthcare system (NHS) , I had 6 months waiting time and had to travel back to India to get my treatment done . They say it is free but NHS is crap !!

Less salaries and very high cost of living!

Inflation is real bad.

Higher education is very expensive .

Food is yuck

Depressing and dull weather most of the times !

British houses are cramped and not as organised and free as Indian houses or flats.

Rent is high in most places , now it must be even higher!

A very boring country , not many tourist attractions. All they have is lawns and rocky beaches. Dont expect it be as diverse and beautiful as India is !! UK is nature depleted and not beautiful.

缺点：

非常高的税收，他们会耗尽你的钱。

由于英国国家医疗服务体系 （NHS）瘫痪，我得经历6个月的等待时间，不得不返回印度完成治疗。他们说这是免费的，但英国国家医疗服务体系 （NHS）是垃圾般的存在！

薪水低，生活成本高！

通货膨胀情况真的很糟糕。

高等教育非常昂贵。

食物很难吃

大多数时候的天气都是沉闷阴沉的！

英国的房子很狭窄，不像印度的房子或公寓那样有组织且自由。

大多数地方的租金都很高，现在肯定更高了！

英国是一个非常无聊的国家，没有多少旅游景点。他们只有草坪和岩石海滩。别指望它会像印度那样多样化和美丽！英国自然资源枯竭，并不美丽。

The immigration laws are not friendly to Indians and it is kind of hard to get PR (I didnt take as I have no intention to even step back UK on land ever after leaving) .

Economy is in bad shape and not much future scope.

If you are an entrepreneur then India is the place to be not UK .

UK is not an option for personal finance , it is a bad choice . You will save less .

The infrastructure is not that great here , there a lot of potholes on the road here too . I feel the new Indian infrastructure outclasses UK anytime like new expressways.

there are a lot more factors .

I personally suggest look for a better option like US etc. or stay back in India.

There is nothing luxurious and different about UK , I feel I could have used my time better in India but had no choice due to my contract.

However , UK is a good country and offers high quality of life . It is just that it is a boring and dull country with not a bright future and average infrastructure and the life here dosen’t suit me!

移民法对印度人不友好，也很难获得英国永久居留权（我没有接受，因为我在离开英国后甚至没打算再回来）。

经济状况不佳，未来前景不大。

如果你是一个企业家，那么印度好过英国。

个人理财方面，英国不是理想之地，这是一个糟糕的选择，存不了什么钱。

这里的基础设施不是很好，路上也有很多坑洞。我觉得印度新的基础设施无一例外都胜过英国，那些新的高速公路就是如此。

还有很多因素。

我个人建议找一个更好的国家去定居，比如美国等，或者留在印度。

英国没有什么奢华和与众不同的地方，我觉得我本可以在印度更好地利用我的时间，但由于我的合同，我别无选择。

然而，英国是一个不错的国家，提供高质量的生活。只是英国是一个无聊和沉闷的国家，没有光明的未来，基础设施一般，这里的生活不适合我!