中国人平均寿命超过美国人_风闻

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JoJoIcee

It’s diet. Americans have an obesity crisis and no matter how good the healthcare system you can’t just fix someone who chooses to be unhealthy. On top of this we have a fentanyl crisis that’s killing so many Americans.

因为饮食。美国人有肥胖危机，无论医疗保健系统有多好，你都无法解决一个选择不健康的人。除此之外，我们还有芬太尼危机，导致许多美国人死亡。

TheyTake MyCalls

Why is the food so unhealthy though? Why does bread here cause sensitive people to get bloated but bread in france doesn’t. Conventional farming is a lot of the culprit, our foods just arn’t getting healthy input to begin with. The soil is dead, a lot of the medecines in foods are just not there. Soil needs to be alive, since a lot of nutrients comes from the microbes in the soil, you cannot just add 3 ingredients in fertilizer and have the food contain all the nutrition of healthy soil. Sure the nitrogen and phosphorus make the plant look healthy and good, but its not. Normal tomatoes are missing a lot of the lycopene they used to have, lycopene is a natural chemotherapy, so normally people would be getting chemo in a non toxic form by eating tomatoes, but not as much today.

为什么食物这么不健康呢? 为什么这里的面包会让敏感的人发胖，而法国的面包却不会。传统农业是罪魁祸首，我们的食物没有从一开始就得到健康的输入。土壤贫瘠了，食物中的很多成分也不存在了。土壤需要有活力，因为许多营养物质来自土壤中的微生物，你不能只在肥料中添加3种成分，就让食物含有健康土壤的所有营养。当然，氮和磷使植物看起来健康和良好，但事实并非如此。正常的番茄失去了很多它们过去拥有的番茄红素，番茄红素是一种天然的化疗，所以通常人们会通过吃番茄来获得无毒的化疗，但现在没有那么多了。

Banana Mustache

@TheyTake MyCalls Microbiologist here, 100% true.

@TheyTake MyCalls 我是微生物学家，百分百正确。

Brett

@TheyTake MyCalls 

You’re correct, but let’s be honest. People in this country are morbidly obese not because the tomatoes are missing some ingredients…

@TheyTake MyCalls 你说得对，但说实话，这个国家的人病态肥胖，并不是因为番茄缺少一些成分……

宋艾倫

It is disheartening how difficult and expensive it is to get a fresh meal made at home. Difficult in that the American rat race is intense and few foods are devoid of extra sugars. Expensive in that fresh foods don’t last longer than a few days and are more costly. Bread is case in point with the cheapest longest lasting breads being terrible, fresh bread being much more expensive and don’t even think about having time to make your own.

让人沮丧的是，在家里做一顿新鲜的饭菜是如此的困难和昂贵。难处在于美国的激烈竞争，几乎没有食物不含额外糖分。贵是因为新鲜食品的保质期不会超过几天，而且价格更高。面包就是一个很好的例子，最便宜、最持久的面包是糟糕的，新鲜的面包要贵得多，甚至都不想自己做。

Brett

@宋艾倫

It’s not expensive. That myth has been debunked repeatedly. It is cheaper to purchase ingredients and cook at home vs eating fast food/takeout every night. The issue is people either don’t know how to cook, are too lazy, don’t have the time, or a combination of all three.

它不贵。这个荒诞的说法一再被揭穿。买食材在家做饭比每天晚上吃快餐/外卖更便宜。问题是，人们要么不知道如何烹饪，要么太懒，要么没有时间，要么三者兼而有之。

宋艾倫

@Brett perhaps if you eat vegan? Inflation hit meats hard. Good meat and vegetables are not cheap. Canned, frozen and fast food is comparatively cheap in terms of dollars and time for a meal. A good batch of beans can be affordable and stretch two meals, but it takes several hours to prepare. Time and money costs both add up, which most are not afforded. You unintentionally admit time is a factor, time taken working overtime, two jobs, etc. The total costs of shopping, purchase cost and preparing meals is not affordable.

@Brett 也许如果你吃素? 通货膨胀严重打击了肉类。好的肉和蔬菜不便宜。罐头食品、冷冻食品和快餐相对来说都比较便宜。一批好豆子可以负担得起，可以吃上两顿饭，但它需要几个小时的准备。时间和金钱的成本都在增加，这是大多数人无法负担的。你无意中承认时间是一个因素，加班、做两份工作等都需要时间。购物、采购和准备饭菜的总成本是无法承受的。

Herb615

I call bullshit. Chile, Australia, and Canada has similar obesity rates yet have among the world’s highest life expectancies. Also, Cuba has a higher life expectancy than the United States with a significantly higher obesity rate. Also, obesity rates are increasing internationally (this isn’t a unique issue for the United States) yet global life expectancies are quite stable. This is a failure of the US healthcare system.

废话。智利、澳大利亚和加拿大的肥胖率相似，但它们的预期寿命却在世界最高之列。此外，古巴的预期寿命比美国高，肥胖率也明显高于美国。此外，全球肥胖率正在上升(这不是美国独有的问题)，但全球预期寿命相当稳定。这是美国医疗体系的失败。

Brett

@Herb615 All the “free healthcare” in the world isn’t going to help someone of their diet consists of McDonald’s and Pepsi. That’s America.

@Herb615 世界上所有的“免费医疗”都帮不了那些只吃麦当劳和百事可乐的人。这是美国。

JoJoIcee

@TheyTake MyCalls I agree with you but also don’t think a large number of obese people are obese because the soil is dying..

@TheyTake MyCalls 我同意你的观点，但我也不认为大量肥胖的人肥胖是因为土壤贫瘠。

The DripDrop

@宋艾倫 I’m calling bull shit.

I eat pretty clean and healthy, and while inflation has been noticed, it’s still not that bad. 

Fresh veggies are so cheap! Look at the overall cost of eating out vs a month worth of groceries. 

I guarantee I can feed you more and better than you even could at the dollar menu.

@宋艾倫 胡说。

我吃得很干净、很健康，虽然人们注意到了通货膨胀，但它仍然没有那么糟糕。

新鲜蔬菜太便宜了! 看看外出就餐的总成本和一个月的食品杂货价格。

我保证我能给你吃的比你在一元菜单上吃的更多更好。

Greg Kingston

Less physical activity and poor diet account for most of our problems. It sounds cliche at this point, but obesity will almost certainly shorten your life. 70+ percent of the US is overweight or obese. Minimal amounts of exercise and minimal processed foods can make a huge difference.

缺乏运动和饮食不良是我们大部分问题的原因。这听起来很老套，但肥胖几乎肯定会缩短你的寿命。70%以上的美国人超重或肥胖。最少的运动量和最少的加工食品可以带来巨大的不同。

neonhamster

Over-dependence on cars due to lack of public transit/bike infrastructure and lower standards for food compared to other countries contribute to these problems.

由于缺乏公共交通/自行车基础设施，以及与其他国家相比食品标准较低，对汽车的过度依赖导致了这些问题。

bigisrick

All food is processed

所有食物都经过加工

Daragh McQuaid

You can’t ignore the problem of thousands of people unable to afford Adequate health care

你不能忽视成千上万的人无法负担足够的医疗保健的问题。

John Millis

Why does it matter do you really want to live that long anyways I think I’m good I’d rather die living life my way as I like

这有什么关系，你真的想活那么久吗？ 无论如何，我觉得我很好，我宁愿按我喜欢的方式死去。

Daragh McQuaid

@Desmond Cameron its a problem I agree but people in Europe and china also do unhealthy things and live much much longer. I live in France currently, they drink smoke and have MacDonalds on every corner yet they life 5 years more

@Desmond Cameron 这是一个问题，我同意，但欧洲人和中国人也做不健康的事情，而且活得更久。我现在住在法国，他们抽烟，每个角落都有麦当劳，但他们还能多活5年。

Gurgle Blaster

While poor diet and activity are contributing factors life expectancy is an average of the age of people who die. We have had 20 years of war, male suicide is a massive issue, and we have a massively malfunctioning Healthcare system that tend to be larger factors. Because people die more often far younger than obesity/poor diets would factors into their deaths. If you look at countries like Finland, Iceland, Japan, France their citizens have higher quality of life and live longer.

虽然不良的饮食和运动是促成因素，但预期寿命是指死亡的人的平均年龄。我们经历了20年的战争，男性自杀是一个严重的问题，我们有一个严重失灵的医疗系统，这往往是更大的因素。因为人们的死亡往往比肥胖/不良饮食造成的死亡因素要早得多。如果你看看芬兰、冰岛、日本和法国等国家，他们的公民生活质量更高，寿命更长。

Gurgle Blaster

@Desmond Cameron they currently have the highest rated Healthcare system in the world if I am not mistaken costing them a little over $2k per capita. While that is much higher than other EU countries its actually only half of what the US spends at a little over $4k per capita.

@Desmond Cameron 如果我没弄错的话，他们目前拥有世界上评级最高的医疗系统，人均花费2000多美元。虽然这比其他欧盟国家高得多，但实际上只是美国人均4000多美元支出的一半。