在加拿大比在北欧国家（挪威、丹麦、瑞典）生活更好吗？从哪些方面来看是这样的？_风闻

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Bryan Robertson

May 17

Western Canada and the more rural areas of Canada do have certain race relations issues and there is the rather poor treatment of the First Nations people - it also seems some of the pro-Trump mania has worked it’s way northward.

So, far it isn’t reaching a level that would create more then isolated incidents - but we still have some work ahead of us.

加拿大西部和更多的农村地区确实存在某些种族关系问题，而且原住民的待遇相当差--似乎一些支持特朗普的狂热已经向北蔓延。

到目前为止，它还没有达到会造成更多孤立事件的程度--但我们仍有一些工作要做。

Roman Martyn

May 12

Where would you advice an Eastern European to migrate to (non-EU country, Ukraine)? To Nordics or to Canada?

你会建议一个东欧人移民到哪里（非欧盟国家，乌克兰）？去北欧还是去加拿大？

Rohit Arora

May 11

Are people becoming racist towards Indians too in Europe?

在欧洲，人们也会对印度人产生种族主义吗？

Erik Engheim

, studied at University of North Dakota

From having lived in different countries I think it is hard to say one country is definitely better than another. It depends so much on what you value as a person, what kind of job you have, where you are in life. Are you single, have children and a family etc?

It may be tempting to compare Canada to Nordic countries because they are all far north and known as quite successful countries. However these countries are dramatically different from each other.

I have not spent a lot of time in Canada, but I have lived in the US, and I am married to a Canadian. My impression of Canada is that it is sort of America done right. Take away the really bad things about America and you get Canada.

While Canadians love to compare Canada to Europe it really is nothing like it. Canada is far more similar to the US. As a Norwegian visiting Canada what struck me is that suburbs, stores, downtowns, public transport, how people interact etc is very similar to the US.

From a European perspective I found e.g. Toronto and areas around it to have very little public transport compared to what I am used to in Norway or the rest of Europe. Mississauga e.g. which has a 1 million inhabitants has no subway or tram and only a pretty rudimentary buss network. Contrast that with Oslo which has half the population but which has an extensive subway network (larger than Toronto with much larger population), extensive tram network and busses.

Canada is probably better if you want a place where it is easy and convenient to drive. Want a big house and make a rapid career. However if you value more work-life balance then Nordic countries are better. More of society is setup to benefit children and family life: shorter work days, more autonomy and flexibility at work. Better maternity leave and childcare solutions. Nordic neighborhoods from what I have seen are also better organized for children. They tend to be built like little villages where children can move between houses, playgrounds, schools etc safely. I Canada it seems like all houses are placed along car roads, because garages are placed with each house. In Norway e.g. one tends to place garages away from the houses to allow a car free neighborhood. There is more playgrounds scattered about than I could see when walking around Canadian neighborhoods.

Nordic cities also have walkable downtown areas. I tried walking around downtown Toronto. It was terrible. Everything is spaced too far apart and each area is very specialized. I found it hard to replace are regular day in Oslo, where I walk to a bookstore, look at some books, then go past an ice cream place to get some ice cream. Later maybe get some dinner before I walk into a movie theatre and watch a movie. In Toronto your feet would hurt bad if you tried that. You have to use a car to move around.

So what you want depends on whether you are into a more urban style European lifestyle or if you want the more car-centric North American lifestyle.

For adults without children, there are many things which are nicer in Canada though. E.g. they have very large apartment complexes with a lot of facilities like their own library swimming pool etc.

Basically Canada offers more material benefits: easier access to swimming pools, more sextion in stores, bigger houses, cheaper cars etc. Nordic countries offer more family oriented work-life balance. However Canadians are also more social and easier to get to know than Scandinavians. If you are a very social and outgoing person, Scandinavia can be a bit though initially.

Each Nordic country of course is a bit different in what it offers. Denmark is amazing for biking, great beaches etc. Norway has impressive and very accessible nature and outdoor activities. While Canada of course has large nature areas I would claim it is more accessible in Norway. You can just jump on a subway in Oslo and go skiing or Snowboarding after work in Norway. Sweden is a bit in between Norway and Denmark. Finland I don’t know well enough.

从在不同国家生活的经验来看，我认为很难说一个国家肯定比另一个国家好。这在很大程度上取决于你作为一个人的价值，你有什么样的工作，你在生活中处于什么位置。你是单身，还是有孩子和家庭等等？

将加拿大与北欧国家进行比较可能是很诱人的，因为它们都在北方，而且被称为相当成功的国家。然而，这些国家彼此之间存在着巨大的差异。

我没有在加拿大呆过很长时间，但我在美国生活过，而且我和一个加拿大人结了婚。我对加拿大的印象是，它有点像美国。去掉美国真正不好的东西，你就得到了加拿大。

虽然加拿大人喜欢将加拿大与欧洲相提并论，但它真的与欧洲完全不同。加拿大与美国更为相似。作为一个访问加拿大的挪威人，我感到惊讶的是，加拿大的郊区、商店、市中心、公共交通、人们的交往方式等都与美国非常相似。

从欧洲的角度来看，我发现，与我在挪威或欧洲其他地方所习惯的相比，多伦多及其周边地区的公共交通非常少。例如，拥有100万居民的密西沙加没有地铁或有轨电车，只有一个相当简陋的公交网络。奥斯陆的人口只有多伦多的一半，但它有一个广泛的地铁网络（比多伦多大得，而后者有着更多的人口），广泛的有轨电车网络和公共汽车，两者形成鲜明对比。

如果你想找一个开车容易和方便的地方，加拿大可能更好。想拥有一栋大房子并迅速发展事业。然而，如果你重视工作和生活的平衡，那么北欧国家会更好。这里更多的社会设置有利于儿童和家庭生活：更短的工作日，更多的工作自主权和灵活性。更好的产假和托儿解决方案。就我所见，北欧的社区也更适合儿童。它们往往建得像小村庄一样，孩子们可以在房屋、操场、学校等之间安全移动。在加拿大，似乎所有的房子都是沿着汽车道路建造的，因为每栋房子都有车库。在挪威，人们倾向于将车库放在远离房屋的地方，以便建立一个没有汽车的社区。到处散落的操场比我在加拿大社区散步时看到的还要多。

北欧的城市也有适合散步的市中心地区。我试着在多伦多市中心散步。这很糟糕。所有的东西都隔得太远，每个区域都很专业。我发现很难取代在奥斯陆的常规日子，我走到一家书店，看一些书，然后经过一家冰淇淋店，买一些冰淇淋。后来也许会吃点晚饭，然后再走进一家电影院看电影。在多伦多，如果你想这样做，你的脚会很疼。你必须使用汽车来移动。

所以你想要什么取决于你是喜欢更多城市风格的欧洲生活方式，还是想要更多以汽车为中心的北美生活方式。

对于没有孩子的成年人来说，加拿大有很多东西是比较好的。例如，他们有非常大的公寓楼，这里有很多设施，如他们自己的图书馆游泳池等。

基本上加拿大提供了更多的物质利益：更容易获得游泳池，商店里有更多的选择，更大的房子，更便宜的汽车等等。北欧国家提供更多以家庭为导向的工作和生活平衡。然而加拿大人也比斯堪的纳维亚人更善于社交，更容易结识。如果你是一个非常善于社交和外向的人，斯堪的纳维亚半岛最初可能会有点难。

当然，每个北欧国家提供的东西都有点不同。丹麦的自行车、海滩等都很不错。挪威有令人印象深刻和非常容易接近的自然和户外活动。虽然加拿大当然也有着大片的自然区域，但我认为挪威的自然区域更容易到达。你可以在奥斯陆跳上地铁，下班后去挪威滑雪或滑雪板。瑞典有点介于挪威和丹麦之间。芬兰我不太了解。

Alan Dillman

“Everything is spaced too far apart and each area is very specialized.”

We definitely space things out, because we can. The area specialization might be a Toronto/Ontario thing.

Western Canadian cities tend to be laid out so that each neighbourhood has access to some shopping. For instance, I can get banking, bread or a snack about 5 minutes walk from me, or about 2.0 km in different directions are two supermarkets. Plus fine dining, drug store, pet stores, et cetera. The local recreation center is 1.7 km. 900 meters if I take shortcuts that google maps isn’t aware of. such as along side a soccer/football pitch.

Still more like US neighbourhoods, I am sure, but we try to have livable communities, instead of bedroom neighbourhoods and distant shopping centres.

The closest shopping centre has apartment buildings alongside it, as well as row houses for seniors. They are also five and ten minutes from a choice of supermarkets and all the stuff my neighbourhood has.

We do have to work on public transportation though.

“一切都间隔得太远，每个领域都非常专业化。”

我们肯定会把事情分开，因为我们可以。区域专业化可能只是多伦多/安大略的事情。

加拿大西部城市的布局倾向于使每个社区都能获得一些购物机会。例如，我可以在离我步行5分钟的地方买到银行业务、面包或小吃，或者在不同方向约2.0公里处有两家超市。另外还有高级餐厅、药店、宠物店等等。当地的娱乐中心是1.7公里。如果我走谷歌地图不知道的捷径，则是900米，比如在一个足球场边上。

我敢肯定，这仍然更像美国的社区，但我们试图建立宜居社区，而不是卧室社区和遥远的购物中心。

最近的购物中心旁边有公寓楼，也有老年人的排屋。他们距离可供选择的超市和我所在社区的所有东西也有5到10分钟的路程。

不过我们确实要在公共交通上下功夫。