摩根大通报告直揭“特朗普的秘密”,3亿美国人愤怒了!_风闻
铁血军事-军事肥宅2019-09-02 15:07
日,摩根大通经济调查结果显示:
因为特朗普的关税政策,美国家庭为维持同等生活质量,每年将因此多支付1000美元!
——由此而产生的经济代价,完全抵消了特朗普自2017年税收改革以来几乎所有的税收优惠。
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而对于这一结论,国际货币基金组织、波士顿联邦储备银行、哈佛大学和芝加哥大学的经济学家在联合发表的研究报告中,表示了支持:尽管美国和中国消费者“毫无疑问是贸易紧张局势的受害者……但关税收入几乎全部由美国进口商来承担。”
显然,作为特朗普关税政策的直接受害人,美国人民很愤怒!
1、MorboForPresident
Surely these families will be able to cover Trump’s $1000 Tariff Tax with that supremely generous $1.50 per week extra they’re getting in their paychecks thanks to the GOP!
毫无疑问,这些家庭将能够支付特朗普1000美元的关税税,而且他们每周还能额外获得1.5美元的额外补贴收入,这多亏了共和党!
2、ontherooftop
I bought a cooler recently and at the check out they actually listed the cost of the tariff as its own line with above the sales tax. I feel like if every item impacted by the tariffs had that highlighted, people would be more outraged. If the tariff was just included in the price, I would have had no idea I was paying an extra $12 thanks to Trump.
我最近买了一台冷却器,在结账时他们实际上把关税的成本列在了销售税上面。我觉得,如果每一项受关税影响的商品都被突显出来,人们会更加愤怒。但如果只是把关税算在价格里,那我根本不知道我因为特朗普而多花了12美元。
3、gjallerhorn
The middle class has shrunk dramatically. That’s bad for stability
中产阶级急剧萎缩。这不利于稳定
there is barely a middle class anymore, which is shown in my comment where if you can’t afford to fix your car, there is no planet you should/would be considered middle class. Most of the middle class is delusional thinking they’re apart of it while simultaneously can’t afford a car repair.
现在(美国)几乎没有中产阶级了,这一点从我的评论中可以看出,如果你买不起车,那么你就不应该被认为是中产阶级。大多数“中产阶级”都有一种错觉,认为自己是中产阶级的一部分,但同时却又买不起汽车。
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4、Known_Performance
40% of American’s can’t cover a 400 dollar emergency.
40%的美国人无法掏出400美元应对紧急情况。
The middle class is not well defined it could be:
中产阶级并没有很好地定义,它可能指:
Individuals making $20,000,
个人赚20000美元,
Individuals making between $25,000 and $100,000 a year
或年收入在2.5万至10万美元之间的个人
Individuals making $33,000
或个人赚33000美元
25% to 66% of households in America
25%到66%的美国家庭
“professionals or business owners who share a culture of domesticity and sub-urbanity and a level of relative security against social crisis in the form of socially desired skill or wealth”
“专业人士或企业主,他们拥有共同的家庭生活和郊区文化,并拥有一定程度的,以应对社会所需的技能或财富形式出现的社会危机”
Or we might be talking about the Upper middle class, Professional middle class, the working class, or the lower middle class.
或者我们谈论的是上层中产阶级,专业中产阶级,工人阶级,或者下层中产阶级。
We can add your criteria to the list but it is just as poor a criteria as anyone elses.
我们可以将你的标准添加到列表中,但是它和其他标准一样糟糕。
Ultimately though a large majority of the percentage of American’s can’t afford 400 dollars extra let alone 1000 dollars.
最终,大多数美国人负担不起400美元的额外开支,更不用说1000美元了。
5、believeinapathy
The definition of the middle class in the United States today is quite absurd.
如今美国的中产阶级的定义相当荒谬。
Then the definition of middle class is pretty ridiculous. There is a VERY large difference between someone making 30k and someone making 100k. Someone making 30k I can understand not being able to afford it, but i also wouldn’t put someone taking home maybe 22k a year after taxes as middle class, they are lower-class.
一个人赚3万和一个人赚10万是有很大区别的。我能理解那些年收入3万美元的人买不起,但我也不会让那些税后年收入大概2.2万美元的算作中产阶级,他们属于较低阶层。
In my state full time minimum wage is $25k per year before taxes, definitely not middle class by any definition, yet they’re being included in these statistics?
在我所在的州,全职最低工资是税前每年2.5万美元,绝对不是中产阶级,但他们也被包括在这些统计数据中了?
The modern middle class is mostly an illusion as far as I’m concerned, especially when most people in this category cannot pay a surprise $500-$1000 bill. You’re not middle class, you’re one step away from poverty.
在我看来,现代中产阶级主要是一种幻觉,尤其是当这类人无法支付令人惊讶的500- 1000美元时。你们其实不是中产阶级,你们离贫穷只有一步之遥了。
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6、SloJoBroCalifornia
I had to take a few unapid days this last month due to my kids getting sick a few times in succession after starting at a new daycare.
由于我的孩子转去一家新的日托所后接连生病了几次,上个月我不得不请了几天病假。
Hardly a “medical emergency” and I’m already feeling it hit hard…
几乎算不上什么“急诊”,但我已经感觉受到了沉重的打击……
7、Totally_a_Banana
everything in the US is a giant fucking ripoff.
在美国的一切都是一场大抢劫。
My copay is only like $20 per visit, which doesn’t sound too bad, but when I’m already paying over $600/month just for the insurance, then make it 5 visits between my 2 kids and wife who all got sick from the cold my kids brought home from daycare, leading to 2 cases of pinkeye, one for each kid, and an ear infection for my wife….it was bad. Rough month.
每次去看病我只要自付20美元,这听起来并不太坏,但当我已经每月支付超过600美元的保险费时,然后我的两个孩子和妻子因为被我日托的那个孩子传染了,导致2例红眼病,每个孩子1例,我妻子耳朵感染了,总共去了5次医院……情况就不好了。很艰难的一个月。
We had to take a number of UNPAID days off and still had to pay for my kids’ daycare while they couldn’t go.
我们不得不请了好几天的无薪假,孩子们不能去的时候,我们还得支付他们的日托费用。
Like I said, not even a medical emergency. No one had to go to the ER. Just a few days missed from work because of a bad cold, and we’re already feeling it weight down on us.
就像我说的,甚至还不是急诊。没有人必须去急诊室。因为重感冒而几天没去上班,我们就已经感到压力很大了。
8、Piano_FingerbangerColorado
I was just talking about this with some of my peers (I’m a teacher), but the number of students who have to work 20-40 hour work weeks after school to support their families these days in absolutely insane.
我刚刚和我的一些学生(我是一名教师)讨论了这个问题,但是现在有多少学生不得不在放学后每周工作20-40个小时来养家糊口,这简直是疯了。
I routinely have students fall asleep in class because their life is literally school --> work --> sleep (for like 3-4 hours) --> school --> repeat. That is not okay and the fact we’ve allowed our country to just slide into this reality is infuriating. I was in high school just a decade ago and before the great recession you just didn’t have this many families who need to depend on their adolescent children to help bring in enough money to keep food on the table.
我经常让学生在课堂上睡觉,因为他们的生活就是学校——>工作——>睡眠(大约3-4小时)——>学校——>重复。这是不对的,我们让我们的国家滑入这一现实的事实令人愤怒。十年前我还在上高中,在经济大萧条之前,没有那么多家庭需要依靠他们十几岁的孩子来赚钱养家糊口。
America is not close to being the greatest country on earth right now and I’m frankly disgusted by it.
美国现在离成为世界上最伟大的国家还差得很远,坦白地说,我对此感到厌恶。
9、EatFishKatie
I worked 3 jobs in highschool to pay for me and my sister’s clothing, food, childcare and activities.
我在高中时做了三份工作来支付我和我姐姐的衣服、食物、育儿和活动开支。
Although, I am proud of my efforts. But I have to admit that my situation is rare among Americans.
虽然,我为自己的努力而感到自豪,但我必须承认,我的处境在美国人中很少见。
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10、gjallerhorn
Dude, manufacturing left this country decades ago. Look at the rust belt. It’s rusty for a reason.
伙计,制造业几十年前就离开了这个国家。看看“铁锈地带”(译注:美国的老工业区)。生锈是有原因的。
In addition to that even a lot of the American products made in the US uses materials sourced overseas and then it brings the prices up for US products also. You also have the US companies raising prices close to the foreign items so they are making more money. The unfortunate loser in this scheme is the American public being forced to pay much more.
除此之外,美国制造的许多美国产品都使用海外采购的材料,这也推高了美国产品的价格。美国企业提高了产品价格,接近外国产品,以赚取更多利润。在这个过程中不幸的输家就是美国公众,他们被迫花更多钱。
11、exoticstructures
Funny when I go looking around youtube for stuff like counterfeit Gibson guitars--it’s the damnedest thing. The reviews are always some conservative old boomer complaining about ‘China’ as they repeatedly send them money??
有趣的是,当我在youtube上到处找假冒的吉布森吉他之类的东西时——这是最糟糕的事情。评论总是一些保守的老婴儿潮一代抱怨“中国”,就好像他们在不断给中国寄钱??
It’s a recurring theme--harbor freight tools etcetc They whine and whine and yet they don’t stop buying it. And the tariffs actually encourage even more bootlegging.
这是一个反复出现的主题——港口货运工具等等,他们抱怨了又抱怨,但他们却没有停止购买中国货。这些关税实际上鼓励了更多的走私。
Back in the day they used to talk crazy smack about Japanese guitars--and these days they praise those same guitars to no end??
在过去,人们常常疯狂地谈论日本吉他,而现在,他们却对这些同样的(日本造)吉他赞不绝口??
12、plooped
Tariffs are a tax on the people of the country imposing the tariffs.
关税是对同样征收关税的国家的人民征收的一种税。
Dealing with China is not without it’s challenges, yes, but the policy of economic engagement with China has been an incredible engine for growth in the world and the liberalization of Chinese society.
诚然,与中国打交道并非没有挑战,但与中国进行经济接触的政策,一直是推动世界经济增长和中国社会自由化的不可思议的引擎。
The TPP (which Trump scuttled) was specifically designed as a counterbalance to China across a broad range of economic and political issues. It was an outstanding multinational multifaceted pact involving 14 allies and friends. When America pulled out, China opens champagne to celebrate
TPP(被特朗普否决了)就是专门为在广泛的经济和政治问题上制衡而设计的。这是一项杰出的多边协议,涉及14个盟国和朋友。当美国退出时,中国开香槟庆祝
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13、[–]__ezekiel__
Apple has been moving production into India. Plus, some companies do make their phones in Korea and other Asian countries. Plus, not EVERYTHING is made in China. Most of the minerals and materials are mined in other countries which is then sold to countries like China, which where they “make something”. Nothing is perfect, but you have to look at the bigger picture。
苹果一直在将生产转移到印度。此外,一些公司确实在韩国和其他亚洲国家生产手机。此外,并非所有东西都是中国制造的。大多数矿产和材料都是在其他国家开采的,然后卖给中国等国家,在那里他们“制造一些东西”。没有什么是完美的,但你要放眼全局。
Trump said He wanted to spend your money on American soil though. You can’t. That is not how the world’s markets operate any more. Isolationist economics don’t work.
特朗普说他想把钱花在美国本土。做不到的。世界市场不再是这样运作的了。孤立主义经济学行不通。
14、UTC
I almost don’t want to show you September…What’s happening now makes me feel like I’m dreaming!Trump has propagated his “goals” to us over and over again。but it has a goal. We have been getting screwed by China,I’m sorry, what’s the goal? And how exactly is this getting us there?
我几乎不想让你看到九月份的最新数据……现在发生的事情让我觉得自己在做梦!特朗普一再向我们宣传他的“目标”,但这种目标是有代价的。我们一直都在被中国超越,对不起,目标是什么来着?这到底要怎么实现呢?
he is just regurgitating republican words, he doesn’t actually know how it works,Yes, we voted for a duplicate puppet!
他只是在重复共和党人的话,实际上他并不知道这是怎么回事,是的,我们把票投给了一个木偶!
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虽然,对于美国网友“UTC”有关特朗普是一个木偶的抱怨,老铁并不完全赞同,但是对于其评论中的一句话,却并不否认:**现在发生的事情让我觉得自己在做梦!**特朗普一再向我们宣传他的“目标”,但这种目标是有代价的。
事实如此,当两个体量相近对手间的纠纷被蓄意点燃时,其实“双输”的种子,就已经注定!
正如网友“__ezekiel__”所说的那样:
世界市场不再是这样运作的了。孤立主义经济学行不通。
所以,如今的美国在开历史倒车的特朗普领导下的诸多现状怪事,奇怪吗?
老铁只能说,一切皆在意料之中!